• Prudence posted a new activity comment 3 hours, 7 minutes ago

    Hope you are having an EXCELLENT day @DavidFS, you are doing just great. Congrats on 10 days, well done. Great idea going away in your bus for those early days, giving yourself new surroundings and distractions. Losing the smokes is so fantastic. I smoked a packet a day for 40 years. I feel such a freedom now without them, and I feel such relief every time I see someone outside a work building having a smoke in the cold. So glad I don’t need either of these nasty vices anymore. The further you get away from it the more you see the total stupidity of it all. It’s really rather nice just being myself, getting to know that self, that real self without all the bullshit I threw at myself constantly. I am surprised my poor body has survived!! Have a good week xx

    • Hi @prudence the trip was brilliant, it gave me space I needed to sort out some issues that were holding me back. Both decisions are non negotiable, will find all the tools I need to make this happen. The support I found from some close Friends was amazing but I also know I’m done with all that shit, I get to move on with my life in a positive way and I’m luving me. That’s new. Hope you have a great week too xxx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 1 day, 20 hours ago

    I hear ya @wakingowl and what a lot you have going on and what a powerhouse you are being getting through major change in your life. The reason you are surprisingly ok is because you see the path ahead clearly and know it is right for you. Well done on your strength and courage xx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 1 day, 20 hours ago

    Huge congrats on all fronts @Ladyhawke xxx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 3 days, 4 hours ago

    Sounds good, you appreciate walks in a different way sober. They are not such a chore!! And it is nice being out in nature. What city are you in Sandy? I must say “you can take my advice because I’mnot using it!!!” haha I don’t go for nearly asmany walks as I should and I live right amongst nature. I am a brat! xx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 3 days, 10 hours ago

    You’re doing great @SandyB, and don’t be afraid of the weekend. Flip the switch….embrace it, and go do something different to usual. Walk on beach? Daytime movie at theatre? Hit the shops and buy something special with all the money you haven’t poured down your neck this week. Really helps xxx

    • Thanks @Prudence I have planned a walk, the first of many as I haven’t really been out and explored new neighbourhood since moving here months ago and also this beautiful city is full of walkways. Looking forward to a bit of a sleep in with a clear head. Xx

      • Sounds good, you appreciate walks in a different way sober. They are not such a chore!! And it is nice being out in nature. What city are you in Sandy? I must say “you can take my advice because I’mnot using it!!!” haha I don’t go for nearly asmany walks as I should and I live right amongst nature. I am a brat! xx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 3 days, 23 hours ago

    Love this post.

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 3 days, 23 hours ago

    Are you trying to let the booze go @Shell43? or are you just toying with the idea, or perhaps trying to cut down? I think this is the first thing you need to decide. It’s a big one, I know. But you will never get off that merry-go-round unless you make a firm decision of how it’s going to be. You are either going to be a drinker, a non drinker or a moderate drinker. We all know that for most of us the latter simply doesn’t work. So it’s out of the first two. If it’s a drinker, just carry on and try not to dwell on what anyone else thinks of you. If you have a bit of a problem of over consumption, know clearly that this will get worse. On the other hand if you would like to give it up, then all you need to do is to make that Decision, and stick to it. Once made, it is not negotiable. You simply do not drink. Ever. Sounds ghastly, scary, life changing, almost impossible socially, and tender and awkward among those closest to you. It’s not half as bad as you imagine, because straight away within the first week or ten days you are feeling so many of the benefits, plus a deep determined pride in yourself. No one gives up drinking without making a strong decision to do so. It takes all the angst out of it. Will I? Won’t I? How much will I have? When will I buy it? All that drama is Gone! It’s bloody fantastic on the other side, I love it. I hope you will make a decision some time soon, and I hope you choose to live your best life xox

    • @Prudence-SO TRUE-@Shell43– The time is now. Choose wisely and start your new life now. The AF lifestyle along with Living Sober saved my life. We’re here and we’re rooting for you! Good Luck.

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 4 days, 11 hours ago

    Relax Lotta. When it flows it flows, and when it doesn’t you just need to go do something else for a bit and try not to stress about the timing. We put so much pressure on ourselves. If you’ve had an advance and it’s expected in a certain timeframe, what is the worst than can happen if it’s not? You say, sorry need more time, juggling life, kids, family, and they say okay! But hurry up coz I wanna read it, haha.
    Don’t forget how amazing you are, how many of our lives you have changed. You can’t force a powerful force, you can only let it ooze out of you when it’s ready and your words will be all the richer for your patience xxx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 5 days, 3 hours ago

    This is good @Mandles. I think it is very healthy to not feel too fragile around alcohol. It will always be there in some way shape or form. The trick is Detachment. To feel completely detached from it. My favourite mantra to myself, or others when the occasion arises. “No thank you. I don’t drink”. So simple. So effective. Looks like you’ve nailed it already. Well done xx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 5 days, 3 hours ago

    Woo Hoo 68 days!! Doing good @Lucy. It is a real delight to see how much of a difference this sobriety is making in your family. Such a win win for everyone, but most of all for you. For you to see the happiness in your family and know it is because of your courage, your changes, you. Well done xoxo

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 5 days, 3 hours ago

    If the next couple of days happen to seem a bit tougher than the first couple, do NOT despair. Just get through them any way you can. Go to bed at 7pm if you need to. And just keep your focus on getting past that first week. By ten days you will be feeling amazing, and feeling all the changes. Even now after 3 days I’ll bet your eyes are clearer and your skin looking more alive. I remember that first week well. I treated myself like a fragile bird physically, went to my warm cozy bed with a book, the tv remote, my phone and tablet, it just seemed a nice safe space in there. I did not yet know how to fill the time between working and bed, haha so I didn’t, I just went to bed a lot of nights. It worked. It felt kind of decadent but in a rather wholesome way. You’re doing good @SandyB xx

    • Thanks so much @Prudence I am taking thing’s day by day but in a determined way. If I didn’t drink yesterday I won’t drink today and when I don’t drink today I won’t drink tomorrow. I love your message about setting myself up for success esp the Trust. Believe! Xxx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 5 days, 3 hours ago

    I’m glad everything turned out ok @Saoirse. It is a big job you have. Respect. xxx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 5 days, 4 hours ago

    I think you are brilliant and I think you have an excellent book in you. What you have written here has given me courage and reinforcement for the choice I am making to leave my beautiful “life’s dream” home in my peaceful paradise to go back to city and live in a humble wee unit and see what life brings to me there. I can’t help second guessing myself…..every half hour haha!!! But it is a choice. It changes the direction of my life. I have made that choice, for me. It will be ok. It will be amazing. And if it isn’t I can change it back. Have a good day. Xx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 5 days, 17 hours ago

    I hear you @Lee. Lost my lovely funny smart and wise Dad to suicide 32 years ago. Still miss him. So sorry to hear about your brothers. Ouch. So hard to take XX

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 6 days, 2 hours ago

    I’m so sorry to hear you’ve lost your Mum @Wakingowl, I didn’t know till now. You have given her a beautiful loving heart felt and unique send off. It gave me tears. Your love and your forgiveness shines outward from your words. In spite of what you, and she, has endured, she has raised a beautiful and soulful daughter. She would be very proud and very grateful for your love xoxo

  • Prudence posted an update 6 days, 3 hours ago

    Good morning tribe. Thank you for the condolences and support on the death of my friend Lindsay yesterday by suicide. You know what? I am so glad to be this sober person who doesn’t wallow around unconsciously in her own self pity and confusion about this death. While I am deeply pained by the tragedy of it it, the awful loss, I am here for others who were closer, who are struggling terribly with it. One friend was married to him for 30 years (not recently) and they were the closest of friends. One’s lost her brother in law who she really loved and counted on. He was such a very kind man, and now it is all over FB with tributes to him etc and that is what everyone seems to remember most, his kindness. Giving up booze really does make us so much better, smarter, aware, unselfish, more compassionate people. It is a wonderful thing to NOT to find our humour, our friendships, our relaxation, our communications in a bottle any more. I love being so much for there for others in a very real and authentic way, and to know I am appreciated for it. To borrow for the second time a quote from our “Ange “Booze is shit, thank fuck I quit” !! Happy days everyone xoxo

    • @prudence booze-free empathy is a precious thing. So good that you can be there for your friends at such a sad time!

    • This made for a lovely read X

    • Well said …
      and big hugs

    • indeed, @prudence. glad you are available for your friends.

    • Amazing, you are a beautiful strong soul. So sorry to hear of your friend xx

    • You do your friend proud by being strong and present to the people he loved. xo

    • I’m grateful @prudence our friendship didn’t come out of a bottle!!
      I am grateful also that a genie popped out of a bottle somewhere in those darker days to grant us all a wish to find the way to be strong to stop!
      Your friend will be looking at you knowing he was truely blessed to have known an amazing person like you in his life here in this world… because …many of us do too! xo

    • Lee@ replied 6 days ago

      Your a wonderful soul @prudence. I lost one of my brothers to suicide 7 years ago and the other to drugs 15 years ago. Both tragic, but the suicide was different and I cannot to this day explain it. It hurts in a very deep and questionable way. Great that you have such strength right now and can be there for your friends as they will need it. So sorry to hear this.

      • I hear you @Lee. Lost my lovely funny smart and wise Dad to suicide 32 years ago. Still miss him. So sorry to hear about your brothers. Ouch. So hard to take XX

    • I’m so sorry Prudence, I’ve just seen this 😢

    • I felt exactly the same way when my mother-in-law died earlier this year. I was grieving for myself because I loved her so deeply (she was AMAZING) and I’m going to hugely miss having her in my life, but I was able to be fully present and open to the grief of others, who were hurting even more (her hubby and kids particularly). I just had so much space inside my sober heart and head to allow for the experiences of all the people around me, not just me. Yet another beautiful gift of sobriety x

    • Sorry for your loss.

    • Prudence, sorry for your loss. Thank you for posting that even though we are sober, life keeps happening in some very painful ways.

    • So sorry for the loss of your beautiful friend @prudence. ❤️

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 6 days, 3 hours ago

    Top of the morning to you David! Have a happy day x

  • Prudence posted an update 1 week ago

    Good morning brave warriors. I am feeling bewildered this morning. I lost a friend to suicide yesterday. Not a particularly close friend but someone I have the utmost admiration for, I loved his warmth and intelligence and the way he made me always feel like our conversations were important and meaningful, which they were. He has been living in Wellington on his yacht and although we caught up about 6 months ago I don’t know what has been going for him and how on earth he got to such a desperate point. I am not looking for comments of sympathy for me. I am trying to process the grief of others close to me, one who was once married to him, and her sister who is my good friend. They have just lost their Mum and are still grieving that loss deeply. I can’t stop my tears when I think of their pain. This man has a very wide circle of friends and all are in shock. How I wish someone could have helped him.

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 1 week ago

    Don’t hope Sandyb it will set you up for failure. TRUST. KNOW. That will set you up for success.
    Go well. You’ve got this xxx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 1 week ago

    MMmm your art! I would love to see it some day. Have a happy week xo

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 1 week ago

    The @DavidFS that I have known on and off for the last 5 years is always way happier when he gives the piss a miss!!
    Stick around. You need support to do this properly. Be ready for the temptations. They will come when you least expect them, and the reckless side of you will suddenly decide you don’t give a toss. YOU DO!!! You be ready. Go deeper, to that raw gritty part of yourself that KNOWS deep down this is how it must be and this is how you want it to be, and visualise your happy self a year down the track, no slip ups, loving your life, coz that is how you roll now. Go well xx

    • Thank You @prudence, I think I’ve reached that point where I truly know, I just don’t want to live like this anymore and this time I feel I have the strength to do it. And will take the good with the bad on my terms.

    • So well put @Prudence. I absolutely had this experience myself, where I knew deep down that this was it for good, no other option for me but to stop. Then I made “the decision”, done. @DavidFS kia kaha x

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 1 week ago

    Today is a new day, let’s look forward and not back with regards to the booze issue. Wise move to have a serious crack at it again, way better than the alternative. The main thing I want to say is that you ARE the same person you were before Oregon. You’ve suffered huge emotional pain, trauma, mistreatment, all sorts of horrible stuff and you have fought your battle and you have won, and put that dickhead right in his place! If anything you are MORE than the person you were before, and if your friends are fading away they were not real friends in the first place. It is a beautiful thing to make new connections and establish new friendships, it is one of the things I value the most about becoming sober. This new opportunity will be a very good one for establishing new friendships, real authentic ones where the person they meet is her true self at all times. I wish you the very best going forward. Get that fly swat ready for any pesky boozy thoughts and just swat the little fuckers away! Don’t compliment them with any power what so ever!!
    Have a happy day, and don’t be hard on yourself for what has gone before. It is NOW that matters and you deserve to treat yourself real fine xoxo

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 1 week ago

    Where is your brother? I think the healing begins with telling him how you feel. How you felt then. Is this at all possible? He may have changed. It may have been the only way he could deal with his grief (I’m not condoning his actions). I believe your healing will be helped immensely by forgiveness on a deep level. Everyone abandoned you. You have survived. You are very wise, aware, and you have acted. You have got booze out of your life. This is an act of love for yourself. You are doing amazing work on yourself, your growth. I am 63. I understand the confusion that finally having to grow up confronts us with. Keep talking to us. We are here for you xxxx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 1 week ago

    So happy for you Lucy, very happy for you all and it’s so cool even the dog is appreciating this new shiny happy healthy you xxx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 1 week ago

    Hello @Winner, top of the morning to ya xx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 1 week ago

    The truth sounds simple and I know it isn’t but it is never the less the truth. You just need to Decide. That decision is not negotiable. From that moment on your life changes, you change, everything gets better, and we are all here to give you support and help and encouragement. You can do this. The only way to do it is to be brave and just do it. Xxx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 1 week, 1 day ago

    Thanks for checking in @Songbird, and I’m so sorry things have been so rough for you. Snow Patrol would have been good, I used to listen to them way back and must check them out again. Hope you stay on the up and up. Spring is nearly here, and with it comes renewal and new beginnings. We have a new feature on the site where you can go into anyones profile and press Follow, so you can see the posts of just the people you are following, or still see everyone in the members feed. I do a bit of both. It will be good to have you back. Take care xxx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 1 week, 2 days ago

    Hi again. I paid someone a couple of grande to make my caravan website. But I too would like to get a website made for my house here and try to somehow direct it out to rich Arab Sheiks who will pay silly money to be somewhere very secluded. This I can offer. About to list with Bachcare as they will manage it all. But feel I am missing a better opportunity to market it as high end exclusive type thing. Haven’t really got time to figure out how to go about it. There are free website outfits you can make yourself if savvy enough. But knowledge and expertise is usually worth paying for. Best luck @Robynb xx

    • Haha, I was referred to one, it gave me a headache and a meltdown! Thus my query! I am meeting with a guy Monday. Hopefully it won’t be too out of budget. I’ll !st you know how it goes.

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 1 week, 2 days ago

    You are stepping right into who you are Lee. Dealing with all that shit in an authentic way allows who you are becoming to shine through. And speaking words of wisdom, let it be……xxx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 1 week, 2 days ago

    Slice the ginger thin, heaps of it, about 6 slices per smallish pot and bash them with the handle of the knife to release the strength of flavour. Squeeze the lemon then throw a couple of bits in for good measure. When drunk pot, fill again with water and drink cold later….ice and mint is nice…or add sparkling mineral or soda water

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 1 week, 2 days ago

    What a wonderful informative post. Great awareness. Very best luck with your creative assignment xxx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 1 week, 2 days ago

    I saw it @Lee but yeah its disappeared. Bugger!

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 1 week, 2 days ago

    Nice. The painting sounds fun. How cool to be guided like that. Another advantage no booze brings us. Clarity. Awareness. Have a happy evening @Saoirse xx

  • Prudence posted an update 1 week, 2 days ago

    A lovely evening by the fire with our very own @Morgan who has honoured me with her presence, along with many delicious treats of the eating…..scoff your face….variety! Much communication and excellent company. Bring on the day! If any ears were burning it was because we were probably talking about you!!

    • Such beautiful memories of LS gatherings here; so many people in our hearts as we ate our way through an unexpected (totally non keto!) feast, the healthy soup untouched.
      Somehow @prudence botched the weather order. Pouring. Low cloud drifting across the hills, silvery water still with a lone white yacht quietly waiting for Summer.
      Ahhh, still bliss no matter what the weather

    • How wonderful! I hope you two lovely ladies enjoy each other!

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 1 week, 2 days ago

    This will change and you will eventually have his respect and understanding. For now, (and always) we are your support. Try to understand that he is experiencing change too. You are changing, and that leaves him without his main drinking buddy amd enabler, and throws a spotlight on his own drinking. He is probably uncomfortable and a bit defiant. SHOW him daily who you are, this new cool clear lovely kind tolerant non drinking you. Xxx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 1 week, 2 days ago

    Licorice tea for me, or whole pots of lemon ginger and apple tea with lots of fresh ginger and lemon added. Lovely hot or cold. Feels soooo good for my body, cleansing. Plus it’s pink and looks real nice. Its by Healtheries

    • 👍that lemon ginger sounds the go…I drink lemon ginger kombucha as a treat but crazy expensive

      • I like red tea no tannin in it red tea chia is lovely😺

      • Slice the ginger thin, heaps of it, about 6 slices per smallish pot and bash them with the handle of the knife to release the strength of flavour. Squeeze the lemon then throw a couple of bits in for good measure. When drunk pot, fill again with water and drink cold later….ice and mint is nice…or add sparkling mineral or soda water

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 1 week, 2 days ago

    Rocking it @Lee he’ll be eating outa your hand by the end of the week……and all on your terms of course. There is empowerment in sobriety. We know what we want and we aren’t afraid to voice it. Xxx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 1 week, 2 days ago

    @Robynb It’s 1.08am so I’ll answer tomorrow and if I forget then remind me.
    http://www.rentacaravan.nz

  • Prudence posted an update 1 week, 3 days ago

    Good morning sober heroes. Hope you are all trucking along okay. Welcome to our new members and kudos to you for making such a wise choice as to join this group of deep souls who understand you and will help you along your way. Giving up booze is the smartest thing I ever did. Have a glorious day everyone. xxx

    • Good morning to you too. It’s great waking up to your posts – really helps knowing support is there.

    • Hi Prudence! Hope you are having a wonderful day 🙂

    • @Prudence, this is not drinking related, but I am curious If you have a website for your business and if so, how did you get it. Hire someone, do it yourself? I need one to direct potential guests directly to my airbnb site but am getting conflicting advice. Sorry, unrelated to the sites mission, but as it is a supportive and mind place I am giving it a shot.

      • @Robynb It’s 1.08am so I’ll answer tomorrow and if I forget then remind me.
        http://www.rentacaravan.nz

      • Hi again. I paid someone a couple of grande to make my caravan website. But I too would like to get a website made for my house here and try to somehow direct it out to rich Arab Sheiks who will pay silly money to be somewhere very secluded. This I can offer. About to list with Bachcare as they will manage it all. But feel I am missing a better opportunity to market it as high end exclusive type thing. Haven’t really got time to figure out how to go about it. There are free website outfits you can make yourself if savvy enough. But knowledge and expertise is usually worth paying for. Best luck @Robynb xx

        • Haha, I was referred to one, it gave me a headache and a meltdown! Thus my query! I am meeting with a guy Monday. Hopefully it won’t be too out of budget. I’ll !st you know how it goes.

    • You too Prudence!!! 🙂 xoxoxo

    • Hey there 🙂

    • Hi @Prudence good to hear from you.. have a lovely weekend.x

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 1 week, 3 days ago

    And Wow! Just look at you now!! Might be time for a name change “Scaredofnothing” xx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 2 weeks ago

    Love this Happy, well said xx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 2 weeks ago

    You are doing so great
    @Lee@ and you express your awareness so well. Someone on here said something in the early days that helped me a lot…..so simple but effective. It was “comparison is the thief of happiness”. Xxx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 2 weeks ago

    Sending you love and hugs Jesss, you’re a wee trooper and you will survive. Your boyfriend is a dick!

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 2 weeks ago

    Thanks gorgeous girl, and I hope things are good in your world too @treehugger xx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 2 weeks, 1 day ago

    Thanks so much everyone xxx

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 2 weeks, 2 days ago

    Still winning I see Winner! Hugs xox

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 2 weeks, 2 days ago

    hahaa

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 2 weeks, 2 days ago

    You need to have an imaginary fly swat. A big craving comes along and you just swat it away, splat! They are only thoughts and they usually signify something you do not have. Something you require. A warm hug. A glass of water. Some comfort food. A warm blanket and a rest. Try to tune in to yourself and see if you recognise what you need when the going gets tough. And remember to look in the mirror and see your skin and hair and eyes looking so much brighter. Be proud. And what really helped me in those early days was to keep and spend what I would have likely spent on booze. I’d go off and buy a new lipstick or some jeans or boots, or just go to a cafe and eat something delicious. It really helps reinforce what you are doing, it shows how much money you used to waste, but it also shows you that you are worth spoiling, and that it is okay to indulge yourself on some simple pleasures. I’d buy luxury grocery items too and loved it. All you need to do is to trust yourself, and to hold on xo

    • I think mental rest from people is what I crave at these points just emptying my mind. I have a big family (5 children) so this isn’t always an option. I feel much better today I’m very happy that I didn’t succumb to the cravings.

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 2 weeks, 2 days ago

    Hello @soberbrightongirl Are you a Brighton Christchurch girl or a Brighton England girl? If you are in ChCh we have a pretty cool crew you can meet up with when you are ready xo

  • Prudence posted a new activity comment 2 weeks, 2 days ago

    I think you are wise weird and wonderful @Lee, and I only said weird coz it slotted so nicely into the sentence. I have a fondness for words and how they fit. Your intuition is alive and strong, always listen to it, trust it, it is part of trusting yourself. It is a muscle we can strengthen the more we use it and are aware of it. Decisions are so hard, and don’t I know it!! Go gently with yourself, and allow all of your feelings, excitement, fear, frustration, pride, determination, love for yourself, and whatever you are feeling. This is probably the biggest and most conscious growth you’ve ever experienced. By waiting and taking care of your loose ends, your end result will feel so much more right and grounding. Where do you plan to go? Are you coming to New Zealand? I forgot where you are now? America?
    Love and hugs to you for being a wise and very brave soul xoxo

    • Thank you for the very thoughtful, reassuring words @prudence and love and hugs back your way! Congratulations on the new life coming to you, it’s a wonderful thing and will bring you much joy. You may have gotten the word “weird” from one of my prior post as I’d used it in reference as to how I was looked upon at my last job because I didn’t drink. I even heard it said out loud once, when I wasn’t meant to but had just let it go. I won’t join in to be accepted, that’s what got me in trouble in the first place as a teen. It’s also very easy for me to realize where the sickness lies as I was once there myself. Their attitude towards me was a sharp crack of the whip but has left me unscarred, while I know what I am doing is the absolute best for myself by being sober. I’ve been toying with the idea of leaving for many years although lately it’s become much more profound and I’ve have been narrowing down the “why, where and hows”. One of my best mates here is from NZ and I’ve always wanted to go and you lovely people here have sparked my curiosity even further. I’ve done enough research to know that I’d love it there and I plan to stay for a while once I arrive. I just nearly decided to suddenly drop everything here and make a sudden go of it but a few things came into light that I would be running from and they must be dealt with first. I am currently in my birthplace which is New Orleans which is party central of the world and I am just sick of what it offers and have been here most of my life with the exception of 5 years in Berlin Germany and 4 or 5 living in a few of the most beautiful parts of this country so I already know what else is out there, here anyway, and it does not interest me. I want to leave the US and be near the coast and NZ could possibly be a very nice change and would cover both agendas. I went through the immigration process in Germany some years ago therefore have an understanding of how that works and what will have to be done if I…[Read more]

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